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 Nimrod - "Shine A Light"

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Nick of Blaze! Hi everyone,


I'm not going to re-register as Nick of Nimrod, you know who I am, and what groups we have.....


Firstly, many thanks to each and every person for their support in our new ventures. I know it sounds cheesey, but without that, no dice! And by support, I don't just mean visiting boards and stuff, I mean actually putting hands in pockets and buying the records. We know you can get the tracks for free on the web, but it's that "Being a part of it" thing you only get from actually buying the tracks. Thank you on behalf of every producer/writer/vocalist/MC/engineer/studio owner/graphic artist/dancer/record company..... in this scene...OUR scene.



Also, there'd be no dice without a quick mention of thanks to these guys, in no particular order:

Silver, James and all the HectTech crew, phosphor, justrich, Devastate, Luna C, DJ Storm, the Elation crew, Anabolic, USH.net, DJ Virus, and if I've missed you off this list, my apologies, I'm not very good at remembering stuff sometimes....





So what's the story.....?


NIMROD is here!



Our replacement for Stealth has been launched, with I have to say, one of the best tracks I think I've been a part of. The phosphor mix blew me away when it surfaced, and then Devastates mix arrived, and this is an outstanding 12".


Keep a check on the HectTech website for release dates.


http://www.hecttechrecords.co.uk


For previews and a small homepage for NIMROD, (There's lots of new pics coming soon) go here:


http://www.midexproductions.com/nimrod.htm


We'll be having all the acts under one page very soon, to make updates easier, so if you're looking for Blaze!, Nimrod, Bang! or Stealth, keep an eye out for the one stop OFFICIAL homepage.






Overall, the scene seems to be picking up very nicely. There's some great new material coming out, some of it I've been privvy to, (look out for KFA, there's some seriously spanking stuff coming from them soon!)





LIVE PERFORMANCE !!!!!

As you know, we rarely PA, but we are on March 16th at Elation. We'll be performing with Jo James (calm down guys!) THE hardcore vocalist, our new material including Shine a light, 'Til The Day, and a brand new track, the next Blaze! release........

Ha... you'll have to wait! Even for the title ;)


But it's a real exclusive. No one else has heard it, except phosphor (its his mix), Silver, and us here at Midex....

We'll also be videoing this performance for future use... so if you miss the PA, don't worry, you can catch it later.


But get there if u can!


As adownside to this performance, we were hoping to perform a couple of old Bang! tracks like Shooting Star and Break Of Dawn. Unfortunately, although we're allowed to do so, Next Generation have asked that we don't. It's a pity, but never mind, the last thing we need is to dampen the great vibe we have at the moment so we're going to respect their wishes this time. PLEASE don't blame us for not performing any of our old tracks.

We are however looking for a promoter to stage a "Bang!/Blaze! Hardcore Party" where we're looking at 4 half hour sets throughout the night, playing our entire catalogue, and a whole host of top DJ's. If your a serious promoter, and reckon you could get this going, let us know.


Finally, the CD single debate rages on,
just a quick note to say that CD singles will NEVER replace vinyl, we want to release them to accompany vinyl. Also, we're looking at putting the Elation performance on a CD single as well as the mixes in full CD quality. We obviously can't do that with vinyl, but let us know what you think.

Would you like a CD Single of SAL for instance, with the Elation performance and the mixes included on it?


Feedback on all this info here would be great!


Best wishes to you all, and I hope you enjoy the new track.



Nick

Nimrod



CDJay I'm the most ardent supporter of CD Singles in the scene today ( yay me, heh ) so I'm guessing my opinion is self-evident?

Bascially it comes down to what Nick said, I don't think CD Singles should replace vinyl, they can co-exist. Some people prefer vinyl, some people prefer CDs. More to the point some people don't HAVE record decks, out of all my m8s who like hardcore, I'm the only one with a record player or ANY hardcore vinyl! Oddly enough they all have hardcore compilation CDs, and some of the few CD Singles that have been released over the years.

So... would I guy a CD Single release of 'Til the Day, Shine a Light etc? Yep!

Would I buy one w/ the Elation performance on, as an audio or video track ( or both )? Yep!

Would everyone I know do the same? Yep!

'Nuff 'said

"Some people see things as they are... and say "Why?"
I dream things that never were, and say "Why Not?" "
Oli G Yeah... i cant wait to see the performance as i dont think i can make it down to elation... :/

What about Selling a VCD Version of the video.. along with the cd quality Audio CD. You can get 74/80/90 mins depending on the CD type used...

its not a 'massive' drop in quality.. but you can play them on DVD and pc.. and id be certain to get one :)


"I AMMM THE CREAAAAATOOOOOR"
\o/ <o/ \o> <o> /o\ _o/ \o_
Simon Yeah CD's are good but finally people are starting to listen to me with CD's you can have other things on, experimental things so that you can see say if a future track your planning on releasing is gonna be a hit by releasing it an early version of the song on one of your CD singles and then you can maybe get some feedback before you press it to vinyl. I'd deffinatly buy pretty much any HHC CD that comes out.

Sy.

CDJay "What about Selling a VCD Version of the video.. along with the cd quality Audio CD."

That's a nice idea, u could also do a normal CD Audio single but w/ a data track ( called CD Extra ) which would have video for use on a PC.

It's nice to see that after 2 years of whining, bitching and reasoning ( in order of frequency employed, lol ) there might actually be something to show for it, heh.

D.Jay

"Some people see things as they are... and say "Why?"
I dream things that never were, and say "Why Not?" "
CDJay Actually while it's early in the thread, and Nick might be reading, it'd be nice to have the complete lyrics to both 'Til the Day and Shine a Light. The ones on the respective websites are not complete!

D.Jay

"Some people see things as they are... and say "Why?"
I dream things that never were, and say "Why Not?" "
Lusive Although i've never seen a commercial release like it maybe you should try a DIVX release.. which means heaps (shitloads) better video and sound all into one cd.. vcd sucks.

Theres possibly a good reason why no one is doing this already.. (like not being able to view divx in standalone vcd players).. but still its a great technology.

oh well just a thought.

| A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. "Hear that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby." -Jack Handy |
Nick of Blaze! OK...well that's great. Some extremely constructive comments there.


This is nothing new to me though. I know it's been a long time coming, and really, the scene should have been doing this years ago. With the introduction of CD burning software being able to have audio and data on a cd (in that order), it's allowed us to experiment.

We had a Bang! PA a long time ago on video, and I wanted to have that on a cd, but no one was interested. Now we're doing this ourselves, with some very innovative and "listening" record companies, we're full steam ahead.


As for the quality of the Vid, well, Chris, my writing/Blaze! partner is in charge of that. He's been researching tirelessly the best formats.


VCD is probably the very best option, not for quality, but for compatibility. Pretty much all computers and many stand alone dvd's can play VCD. We are toying with S-VCD, and DivX but for the moment, to save loads of people having to install new players, codecs and software, VCD is favourite.


Also, because they're quite small, we'll probably include Windows Media format, QuickTime, and RealMedia formats so at least if all else fails, you'll see something!


As for timing, we reckon we'd get all this and three mixes in CD quality on a single standard CD. We couldn't really do two seperate CD's, (one with video & audio, and one with just audio), mainly because of production costs.


OK keep the feedback coming.... there's one bonus thing we're thinking of doing if there's room on the CD, and thats to include the bare vocals to the tracks so everyone can have a go at their own remixes. We already do this at the Vocal Factory our interactive website, but we reckon it would be great to have other mixes of our main releases. We may even commission one for release if it's THAT good.

Providing someone doesn't do anything really silly like do a mix and put it out themselves on the sly, that might be an ongoing thing.


That's gonna set this thread alight isnt it! ;)


Finally, Lyrics....


Listening to the tracks I think the only lyric missing is the ad libs at the end of TTD, anyhoo...here ya go:


http://www.midexproductions.com/lyrics/tiltheday.htm

http://www.midexproductions.com/lyrics/shinealight.htm



Thanks very much for your constructive comments, we'll do our very best for the scene and lead the way. If it all goes tits up.....ack, nothing ventured nothing gained!


Cheers

Nick

CDJay First off, nice1 w/ the adlibs on 'Til the Day, I was a bit off :/

BUT w/ Shine a Light, I think I have it sussed, and I'm thinkin' the lyrics go:
( I blame any inaccuracies on the sound quality, heh )

( chorus )
- as posted

( verse )

Shine a Light, let me show you today
How to live your life in a different way
and I won't let you down, baby, turn you around
and give you a whole new game to play

Shine a Light let me show you the way
I'm gonna be with you every day
Keep you all to myself, ( through / till ) the end of time
and Follow you 'til the day I die...

Always be there

Yea.......

I won't let you down, I'm gonna be around


Do I get a prize? ;)

D.Jay

"Some people see things as they are... and say "Why?"
I dream things that never were, and say "Why Not?" "
Nick of Blaze! DOH!

What a donut...

yup I stand corrected.... quite right... shame on me...


Thats what you get for trying to remember them off the top of your head...

I blame the pound, state of the country, Anne widdecombe... (mmmmmmmm anne widdecombe....fumble fumble)



Credit where credits due, I'll rewrite the page and give you a mention....cheers bud!


Nick

At the employment centre!
Simon Ahh he gets me in a good mood thinking of a donut then ruins the lovely thought by mentioning Anne Widdecombe. Blah!!!!

Sy.

CDJay "(mmmmmmmm anne widdecombe....fumble fumble)"

I can't decide, whether to sue, or splash out on the best mental care money can buy, for Nick Arnold. On one hand I'm feeling violated for such terrible throughts placed in my head, but on the other I'm wondering what it would be like to HAVE such disturbed thoughts of my own accord! Heh.

Which is it BTW, Through or Til?

Cheers BTW :)

D.Jay


"Some people see things as they are... and say "Why?"
I dream things that never were, and say "Why Not?" "
Oli G
quote:
Although i've never seen a commercial release like it maybe you should try a DIVX release.. which means heaps (shitloads) better video and sound all into one cd.. vcd sucks.


Yeah of course divx is good.. but you can slap VCD in a DVD player.. where as you cant divx

keep up the good work
im awaiting this cd


"I AMMM THE CREAAAAATOOOOOR"
\o/ <o/ \o> <o> /o\ _o/ \o_
silver There is an edit facility, just press edit message :)

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you, me and hardcore forever.
CDJay I've edited this message, since it's entirely pointless now I've noticed that Nick has updated the lyrics, hehe.

*restrains from calling Silver a smart-ass* ;)

D.Jay

"Some people see things as they are... and say "Why?"
I dream things that never were, and say "Why Not?" "
DJ Mouse i just listened to the audio sample and i must say that both of those tunes are totally BANGING!! i shall get myself a copy on vinyl soon :)

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DJ Mouse - "Winning a war doesn't determine who's right.... winning determines who's left"
Nick of Blaze! CHEERS BUD!

Many thanks for the feedback and support.... glad you like it.


Nick
Edward Nick,

I think a CD single release of 'Til The Day would be a strong and innovative step forward for the scene.

CDJay While Nick no doubtedly has a lot of say and input in this matter, the guy you really want to be begging is Silver ;)

D.Jay

"Some people see things as they are... and say "Why?"
I dream things that never were, and say "Why Not?" "
Hixxy_is_my_god2k2 So If A Single Is Released Would It Go Into The Charts? If It Does Then Most Probably It Will Be Sat At Number 1 For 3 Months!

(*)At first i prayed to god,
And then i realised that i was talking to myself!(*)
Nick of Blaze! Thank you Edward for that. We reckon so too, but we have to be careful, we really want to expand on the scene, but sometimes you can run too fast.

As for it getting in the charts, well... nice thought, but I don't think so. There are around 200 singles released EVERY WEEK here in the UK alone, and the chances of TTD getting noticed is relatively remote.

So don't worry, you wont see hardcore commercialised because it's on a cd single. Thanks for the compliment though Hixxy_is_my_god2k2...

As for asking Silver to release the CD single D,Jay...pah!!! I might let him if he pays me my $1,000,000,000 advance that I'm DEMANDING...or.... an exclusive HH.com T would be cool!!! :-)



Cheers guys... be ready for the new Blaze! release very very soon.....


Nick.

Mc Joyrider Hey Nic if your reading this surely Bang/Blaze/Stealth/Obilivion/Nimrod should be performing at the biggest and the best-what better place than on the stage at Slammin Vinyl?That really would be the biggest rave ever, back to the old Fantazia style with live PA's, it can only help the scene grow!!!




Nick of Blaze! Totally agreed bud,


The trouble is, because we're an "act" we're more expensive than a named DJ, plus we dont last as long. We do a 15 minute set, and with the hire of dancers, MC, transport, gear, plus other odds and sods, we have to charge around £600. We'd be able to charge the same or thereabouts for a longer set, but we're not sure if anyone wants to hear us for 30 minutes.

Understandably, promoters are reluctant to book us, and it's totally justified. Most HH events run close to the wire profit wise, so we're an added expense that could tip the balance to make the event a loss, and that's not good.


However, we WANT to play. We were going to do Elation on the 16th, but we had to cancel, we're absolutely gutted cos we were really looking forward to it...

So, what we're thinking of, is an event near the end of the year in the UK, where we can really have a great party. We'll play almost the entire catalogue from Bang!/Blaze!/Nimrod/Stealth/Oblivion, in three seperate 30-45 minute sets scattered throughout the night, as well as a top DJ line up toboot.


It's being talked about now, and we'll try our hardest to get it together. As an act, we'd LOVE to do this, and we have the material to do it.


We'll make the venue as central in the UK as we can so everyone has a chance of getting there.



But, as always, we need feedback. Is this the sort of event you'd attend?



Let us know, because the more people show interest, the more chance there is of it becoming reality.



Cheers guys,

Nick.
DJ Mouse nick if you're going to do a set in the central uk,come here to huddersfield ;)
it's about 15 miles away from leeds,biggest town in the uk as well
pweeeze?? hehe

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DJ Mouse - "Winning a war doesn't determine who's right.... winning determines who's left"
Oli G Yeah
central uk's cool
so all the londerers (southerners) can suddenly realise that the entire country does not revolve around them :)


"I AMMM THE CREAAAAATOOOOOR"
\o/ <o/ \o> <o> /o\ _o/ \o_
Nick of Blaze! LOL.... excellent....


Nah...you northerners will have video screens... can't risk it. You're all still throwing spears at buses, and we'd have to bring our own electricity!


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Don't start the North/South thing, Chris in Blaze! is from Brum, we do this all day long!! And one of our top remixers at the VF is from Lancs... I get picked on too much!

All day on the bloody messenger, "OI!! SARF!! You southern nancy!"


OK, well back OnT, there's lots of talking going on.


Cheers guys, keep the feedback coming.


Nick.



Oli G Har
no dont start :)

but keep up all the good work....
this year the scenes hopefully gonna kick off again
a lot of new talent breakin thru (ipersonaly recomend DFM records & Phase 4... both got some wkd talent behind em)


"I AMMM THE CREAAAAATOOOOOR"
\o/ <o/ \o> <o> /o\ _o/ \o_
miss-mitzi lol nick u so funny.......

If computer games effected us kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!
Simon [quote]Originally posted by Nick of Blaze!:


Nah...you northerners will have video screens... can't risk it. You're all still throwing spears at buses, and we'd have to bring our own electricity!


Ha Ha Ha very funny I'm from the south and I know what it's like.
But yeah keep up the good work and have the rave in London The Capital of the country much bigger than Huddersfield!!!! LOL

Sy.

DJ CURLY i think im a northener
whats a bus??????????
whats a spear????????
whats electricity??????

" when ya dont know where to go and lifes kinda slow ya gotta hit the raves and let your body lose control release the tension the pressure is high roll with the flow get high on the ride"
Hixxy_is_my_god2k2 Stop dissin us northernas jus coz we dont talk in a real gay accent and dont reckon the whole of england evolves around london!
At least we dont ave a real fat jabba called prescott who makes us pay loads for petrol and sez we shud use buses and then he goes around in his petrol guzlin jags!!!!

Check one, two were the bad boy krew, cream of the crop!
DJ CURLY no i am a northener im from walsall
u gotta admit theres some thick people up here
but in the south theres loads of freaks man
plus london its a sh**y place really

" when ya dont know where to go and lifes kinda slow ya gotta hit the raves and let your body lose control release the tension the pressure is high roll with the flow get high on the ride"
miss-mitzi WOT???? london is a great place!!!!! thats y im movin to norfolk!!!!

If computer games effected us kids, we would all be runnin around in dark rooms munchin magic pills and listenin to repetative music!
Simon Don't dis us Southerners then.
We live in a Brilliant place!!!

Sy.

Oli G Dreamscape 2002
walsall you say?
buwhahah

www.lost-the-plot.org
stafford based hardore night
free entry
</pimp>

"ENERGISE"
\o/ <o/ \o> <o> /o\ _o/ \o_
Annex Hrmmm i just figured i'd post here, cuz i'm still uber excited
my very first vinyl is Til the Day :)
which rocks cuz... A: i love the track B: it's Nick Arnold (and dude, you rule) C: it's got Phosphor and Justrich mixes.. and their both local who i see all the time at parties....

yes it's my first *whipes a tear* hehe... hopefully the first of many.. vinyl just has a feel to it, a... je ne sais qua (i took it for years but can't spell in french.. sue me).. hehe.. anyhoo as to a cd release of ttd, i think it would undoubtably do well, and i'm all for getting quality choons out in as many formats as available as possible to as many people as possible :)

i think imma haveta get me a job... cuz the sample of shine a light is bloody good... and i have this strange feeling im going to be purchasing basically... all the new blaze! & nimrod vinyl eventually (i may lag a bit due to fundage, lol)

i'm goin nutz waiting for the next Blaze! track that keeps getting hinted at around here!!!!!!

anyhoo keep it up!
you've made at the very least one UBER happy, and apreciative canadian, hehe ;)


Potatoe
CDJay Shine a Light ( Touching Down mix ) and "New Blaze track" ( Luna-C mix ) are two of the best hardcore tunes ever made.

Start saving: every second after these are released and you don't have them is wasted life ;)

D.Jay

"Some people see things as they are... and say "Why?"
I dream things that never were, and say "Why Not?" "
Annex wow!
that's a helluva promotion ;)



Potatoe
ka0tik whats up everyone?

greetings from the US :)

just wanted to add on to this topic. this nimrod track completely knocked me outta my seat when i listened to it for the first time. both mixes are right on and makes me all crazy inside.

just one question... when is it going to be released? ive been looking around and maybe ive been looking in the wrong places but i havent seen it available yet. im DYING to get this record. help me out please!

btw.. i just received my copy of 'til the day since i missed the first pressing and ive played it many times already.

Nick - keep up the excellent work and i cant wait for more releases.

Mike from Arizona. :)

Nick of Blaze! Cheers bud for that... and welcome to the board.


For latest on the release date then check out the Hecttech site:

http://www.hecttechrecords.co.uk

Or better still, fire James a mail, tell him to hurry up!!!


LOL... no only kidding, he'll have a go at me for clogging up his box!


Cheers

Nick.


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