rafferty Advanced Member
United Kingdom
653 posts Joined: Feb, 2012
Posted - 2021/07/19 : 00:21:28
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Shame the following tracks never got released.
DJ Slam - The Future
Trance Masters - Acid Sunshine (Dubplate Mix)
Ramos, Billy Bunter & UFO - The Theme
Mr Hyde & UFO - Organ Power
All played by Ramos @ Fusion 'Dream Trip' @ The Sanctuary in April 1997.
I love this kind of Trancecore. Wicked vibe.
So many quality 90s tracks never got released. I really like Trancecore. But once the sound changed and became commercial sounding freeform after 2000. I lost interest in it. This is really good though, Ramos really deserves more credit. Billy Bunter also with his label GBT - Great British Techno.
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
13,197 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2021/07/19 : 03:24:15
To continue what you started on OneSeventy, I doubt you've listened to all Freeform if you say it turned commercial after 2000.
I'll gladly post the same videos here, and ask you how these 3 sounds anything like commercial trance, or any other genre for that matter?
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LeVzi Advanced Member
United Kingdom
944 posts Joined: Feb, 2019
Posted - 2021/07/19 : 09:34:10
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Shame the following tracks never got released.
DJ Slam - The Future
Trance Masters - Acid Sunshine (Dubplate Mix)
Ramos, Billy Bunter & UFO - The Theme
Mr Hyde & UFO - Organ Power
All played by Ramos @ Fusion 'Dream Trip' @ The Sanctuary in April 1997.
I love this kind of Trancecore. Wicked vibe.
So many quality 90s tracks never got released. I really like Trancecore. But once the sound changed and became commercial sounding freeform after 2000. I lost interest in it. This is really good though, Ramos really deserves more credit. Billy Bunter also with his label GBT - Great British Techno.
Those tracks were the exact reason why the rave scene started dying quickly, Hixxy, Bunter, Ramos started playing them at events at those speeds and it just killed everything dead.
That was obvious a result of that "meeting" and it was the worst decision ever made. The HHC wasn't great being produced at the time either it was all vocal shite, BUT the odd great track came outta that too, and I am pretty sure the scene would not have had its bleak time then and morphed towards UK Hardcore quicker.
Trancy shit like that needs to stay in the techno rooms it was never main arena worthy. Dave Angel had a massive following for sticking to his guns with trance, and he played alongside the likes of HMS, it worked there, but that tranceore shite alongside brisk etc ? It ****ed it.
Si Thompson Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,427 posts Joined: Mar, 2016
Posted - 2021/07/19 : 19:46:19
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
quote:Originally posted by rafferty:
quote:Originally posted by Si Thompson:
Shame the following tracks never got released.
DJ Slam - The Future
Trance Masters - Acid Sunshine (Dubplate Mix)
Ramos, Billy Bunter & UFO - The Theme
Mr Hyde & UFO - Organ Power
All played by Ramos @ Fusion 'Dream Trip' @ The Sanctuary in April 1997.
I love this kind of Trancecore. Wicked vibe.
So many quality 90s tracks never got released. I really like Trancecore. But once the sound changed and became commercial sounding freeform after 2000. I lost interest in it. This is really good though, Ramos really deserves more credit. Billy Bunter also with his label GBT - Great British Techno.
Those tracks were the exact reason why the rave scene started dying quickly, Hixxy, Bunter, Ramos started playing them at events at those speeds and it just killed everything dead.
That was obvious a result of that "meeting" and it was the worst decision ever made. The HHC wasn't great being produced at the time either it was all vocal shite, BUT the odd great track came outta that too, and I am pretty sure the scene would not have had its bleak time then and morphed towards UK Hardcore quicker.
Trancy shit like that needs to stay in the techno rooms it was never main arena worthy. Dave Angel had a massive following for sticking to his guns with trance, and he played alongside the likes of HMS, it worked there, but that tranceore shite alongside brisk etc ? It ****ed it.
Unless Brisk was on earlier in the night, these type of sets were usually early in the main room. I have no issue with that, but they were best kept for the Technodrome, although, this Ramos set is definitely main room worthy. Quality track after quality track.
LeVzi Advanced Member
United Kingdom
944 posts Joined: Feb, 2019
Posted - 2021/07/20 : 07:27:22
Clarkee used to play trancey techno in the main rooms start soft and get harder, it worked , but playing anything slow and trancey in the main room killed it, I watched people leaving for the old school rooms or techno rooms , even the jungle rooms, no one liked it.
But, it was welcomed in the techno rooms as the harder techno had gone beyond normal, HMS, Lofty, Scorpio, Producer were playing breakneck speeds, and you couldnt survive to that all night, so the slower trancy stuff was needed before people started dropping.
Si Thompson Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,427 posts Joined: Mar, 2016
Posted - 2021/07/20 : 08:03:19
quote:Originally posted by LeVzi:
Clarkee used to play trancey techno in the main rooms start soft and get harder, it worked , but playing anything slow and trancey in the main room killed it, I watched people leaving for the old school rooms or techno rooms , even the jungle rooms, no one liked it.
But, it was welcomed in the techno rooms as the harder techno had gone beyond normal, HMS, Lofty, Scorpio, Producer were playing breakneck speeds, and you couldnt survive to that all night, so the slower trancy stuff was needed before people started dropping.
Clarkee often had two sets @ Helter Skelter. Main room and Technodrome. Played some cracking stuff!
This is one of my favourites. Wicked stuff! Main room also.
Think I'll edit the title of this thread and add Techno also. Plenty of good stuff to explore.
LeVzi Advanced Member
United Kingdom
944 posts Joined: Feb, 2019
Posted - 2021/07/21 : 05:33:55
When Clarkee was in that mood, he played some trippy as **** techno, really fked up stuff that was cool , but he always turned the heat up at some point.
But then if he was in that mental mood, Area 51 in full effect.
The Music Maker had an acid light show, that was pretty dope too.
Dave Angel was popular back then, always nice for a break from the mental techno and a good time to chill for a bit , get some energy back.
And this was the only time I saw the big man live.