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MC RizlaDizla
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 Posted - 2002/06/18 : 07:38:25
coz i wouldnt. me and em m8 were having this sort of dissucussion. He seems to fink they are 3 remixes of Elysium where as i only fink there are 2 remixes of this wikkid anthem.
I would say that Return to Elysium woz another choon. Maybe a follow up, but not a remix.
Like films have sequels and remakes.
wot do you fink
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 08:17:32
would you say elysium+ is a remix? i would. But return to elysium is just a choon done in exactely the same style using the same instruments etc. so no its not a mix its a follow up.
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 09:00:06
elysium+ fukkin rox my ear drumz, it sounds alot like return but i luv that break down and the robot voice "elysium"
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Voltage
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 Posted - 2002/06/18 : 09:28:13
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But return to elysium is just a choon done in exactely the same style using the same instruments etc. so no its not a mix its a follow up.
To me, that is the exact reason I would give to call it a rmx :) Return to Elysium is a re make of Elysium on the harder tip.
Why is the latest mix of elysium not a follow up then, what is technically different about it to "return to elysium" ?
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 09:41:05
its in the name :)
its al up to the producer so scotbrown must anwer this.
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 09:45:22
LOL!
Its a follow up just because of the name, not the content????
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 09:53:14
for this records yeah
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 10:12:56
So if Brisk n Hams rmx of Shooting Star was called "Return to Shooting Star", it would have been seen as a follow up and not a rmx?
Sounds barmy :)
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 10:22:57
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Originally posted by Voltage:
So if Brisk n Hams rmx of Shooting Star was called "Return to Shooting Star", it would have been seen as a follow up and not a rmx?
Sounds barmy :)
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if they maked an new song based on shooting star than it is an follow up
if rmx what you say then it is an remix.
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 10:35:40
Okay... please tell me the technical differences between a "remix" and a new track "based" on another... coz they seem the same thing to me :)
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MC RizlaDizla
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 11:44:28
look kev ya dooof.
Return to Elysium is a diffrent track. Scott Brown uses all his own little samples and stuff, he has just down a sort of second 1 to the first. it takes the first 1 alittle further in a way a kind of a story. they are 2 diffrent choons m8.
The remixes are the first choon but 1 hixxys version. he took the orig and wot he liked in the track kept and inserted the fings he likes, and wot he finks would go well. The same with Scott Brown. His took the first track and insteed of taking it further has changed the begining.
This is wot i fink, only Mr Brown can fully @ACCEPT it you friggin tyke
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 12:12:56
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Scott Brown uses all his own little samples and stuff, he has just down a sort of second 1 to the first. it takes the first 1 alittle further in a way a kind of a story. they are 2 diffrent choons m8.
Now that is how I would actually view a follow up. A tune that uses similar sounds and new sounds and a different structure!! So that the track is developed. When I listen to hardcore, I create a story in my head.. so can see what you mean by this now.
I dont think I have listened to Return to Elysium in this way before, I have only ever listened to it as a "rmx" - as this is what Scott Brown himself called it on the Evo website prior to release, so thats how ive thought of it. I will listen to it when I get home and listen to the structure, if the structure is different from the original, then I'll climb down from my high duck.
P.S) the name of my high duck is "dooby"
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 14:06:55
i havent even heard the choon m8
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 Posted - 2002/06/18 : 14:37:48
Right best example i can think of TOYTOWN. u got toytown, toytown vocal remix, then return to toytown which is a different track keeping true to the original style of toytown but different enough to be called a new track.
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 15:11:38
To answer the title question: No, and neither would Scott Brown. Return to Elysium was never written to be a remix, only another massive choon in true SB style.
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MC RizlaDizla
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Posted - 2002/06/18 : 23:12:03
fank guys. i just have some dumb m8s who just dont understand simple fings like wots a remix or not. For 1 fing a remix will have the same name and then have whoever remixed it after the name
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