Rodz90 Average Member
United Kingdom
150 posts Joined: Sep, 2012
Posted - 2021/04/29 : 20:59:07
I hope not.
It's more than had it's day, and this is a good enough time for it to come to an end. The main demographic that really cares about it now all have kids / failing kidneys.
warped_candykid Advanced Member
United States
3,432 posts Joined: Jan, 2004
Posted - 2021/04/29 : 22:14:49
I think so. As long as there is someone still carrying the flame for the sound we know it as. I don't think it will "just happen" as some big one-moment event, but will happen in waves of popularity. New generation of ravers will make it "their thing" and then it will damper down again.
DJ_FunDaBounce Advanced Member
Colombia
1,099 posts Joined: Nov, 2001
Posted - 2021/04/30 : 03:13:46
Imo, the motivation/incentive to make hardcore has faded for a lot of producers. I've had to think of ways to make it worthwhile for myself but it hasn't always been easy.
The landscape has changed. live events will not be the same as before, due to covid. I no longer see people getting excited over production like a lot of us did back in the day. It's almost as if so much of the mystery has been solved, that no one dares to take it further, in that respect.
maybe if we saw it as an opportunity to get back to our daws and just love it again with all the experience we now have. and really prove ourselves with our craft.
Then, maybe hardcore will see a new day.
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DJ_FunDaBounce Advanced Member
Colombia
1,099 posts Joined: Nov, 2001
Posted - 2021/05/01 : 03:45:59
quote:Originally posted by possys2:
the joey riot bouncy techno style tracks are awesome.
Joey Riot / TLM / Audio Tantrum ? Future Bouncy Techno EP - but nothing else i dont think has came out?
NICE!! :D
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Samination Advanced Member
Sweden
10,214 posts Joined: Jul, 2004
195 hardcore releases
Posted - 2021/05/01 : 06:25:58
not that i like it (I dont like BT at all), but if this starts to catch wind (after the 1991-1994 revivals), maybe proper 95-99 Happy Hardcore will be revived and not some modern updates (HHU2 *cough*).
Yes, that means vocals that Levzi's gonna hate, but he has to agree that would be better than what we've had for the past 7 or so years
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jenks Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3,598 posts Joined: Feb, 2003
19 hardcore releases
Posted - 2021/05/01 : 15:32:42
There's no reason to believe that all homo sapiens will just spontaneously decide that 170bpm+ EDM doesn't sound good any more. There's an issue with people trying to be the next Darren Styles and there's a dearth of good songwriters (nothing new) but there's no reason to think it can't kick on again. I'm loving Frenchcore at the moment, personally. I feel like it's gradually becoming a lot of what people bemoaned UK Hardcore of not being.
Connormgs Junior Member
United States
87 posts Joined: Jan, 2012
Posted - 2021/05/02 : 14:42:15
Hardcore has had the same generic boring sound since 2012, seems like most people are still trying to ride the ~EDM Wave~ from years ago, j-core producers have gotten pretty bad too ever since they realized they can make money off of their music now.
warped_candykid Advanced Member
United States
3,432 posts Joined: Jan, 2004
Posted - 2021/05/03 : 01:52:34
Yall are being negative. It's survived this long. I'm pretty sure we've had this topic once every 5 or 10 years. People like fast music. As long as their are people who carry the torch, there will be core.
Posted - 2021/05/03 : 06:47:12
Difficult to say for definite. As far as im concerned it died a good few years ago when I stopped going to raves. When I was younger, hardcore was such a huge part of my life and luckily for me it coincided with a huge wave of popularity at the time.
I associate the older tunes with times in my life and the memories of going mental to those tunes on a dance floor. Even if I hear a good new hardcore tune (not happened in a while btw) then it still doesnt do it for me the same way it would have back in the day.
As for the long term future I think fast music will always be around. As others have mentioned, people who like harder and faster music wont just disappear. The problem for hardcore, or certainly as most of us on here know it, is that there is too many other genres nowadays with bigger followings and people will go with that. Times have changed and the way people listen to music has changed massively so its going to be difficult.
Mickey Init Senior Member
United Kingdom
393 posts Joined: Oct, 2012
Posted - 2021/05/03 : 09:01:41
They were saying the same thing in 1999 and here we are 22 years - and a global pandemic - later and we still have tunes being released weekly.
The thing with the hardcore scene is that it ebbs & flows, and when it?s on a downer people start to believe it's finished.
There have been times in the past where there's been a real confluence of activity from the majority of producers and DJs in the scene, and it feels great because there are several big things happening close together - events, comp releases etc. And then it dies down and not much happens for a while and it all feels a bit bleak.
The highs are amazing, the lows are pretty crap. And the highs happen once in a blue moon.
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Advather Senior Member
United States
256 posts Joined: Jun, 2013
Posted - 2021/05/03 : 23:24:17
It looks to me like there are plenty of new releases but almost all of them are crap. Hardcore is dead to me only in that I almost never find anything I like.
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Jacco Junior Member
United Kingdom
120 posts Joined: Mar, 2005
Posted - 2021/05/04 : 00:12:43
Neither surprised nor gutted. The mainstream end of the scene has never really supported new talent coming in. Years and years the same people at the big events. If you look at where Recon, Gammer ans Styles are now... They were always gonna move on to something bigger, more global. But their departure has left a void only few have managed to fill. Add on toxic shit like what happened to Sy and you have the perfect recipe for decline. YouTube tutorials have led to copy n paste producers that all sound the same. Barely any new face have developed their own sound.
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