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 Why don?t UK hardcore artists ever make music vids
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The drunken scotsman
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Posted - 2018/07/11 :  21:22:34  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit The drunken scotsman's homepage  Reply with quote
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Originally posted by OKCBOI:
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I doubt very much a lack of music videos is the reason hardcore is dead.



What?s the reason?



Lack of hardcore


A lack of hardcore worth making a video for.





Are we talking music or pornography here? I seriously hope it?s not the latter.


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SparkzMusic
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Posted - 2018/07/11 :  21:29:12  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit SparkzMusic's homepage  Reply with quote
Simple really..... Money.

To do a fully pro video it's going to be ?1000's. Even more. By time you factor in the studio with green screen, camera and other staff on hand plus editors.

The main reason there have been pro hardcore music vids (mostly Breeze and styles) is a factor of overall revenue. Get the music vid done, it's going to be played on clubland TV and other channels which generates even more revenue and boosts sales. Even at a loss from music channel company, the boosted sales will make up for it. Oh and these days youtube plays revenue.

For someone not that big up in the scene, the only way is if they can do the video themselves or known someone who can. Then could have reduced costs.

I think I recall this Styles remix (below) having a music vid because Slammer (or 1 of his mates) was at Portsmouth uni doing some sort of video creation/editing so gone it done. While quite impressive and hats off to them, the video doesn't have that fully pro feel to it, must have taken them ages and was only done because DS remixed it.





Hardcore is a very wide but small scene. Most stuff is made in a bedroom or front room at barely any expense and it's unlikely to generate much cash. Spending money on music vids would be a complete financial loss.

Music TV channels have died down these days in favour of youtube, so even for the big guns (who would only consider a pro video), it isn't worth it that much. I think the going adsense rate is around 30p for every 1000 plays with ads viewed (no adblock....a tad more if people click ads).

Based on that.... 100k plays for ?300? That money certainly wouldn't even be enough to hire the green screen studio.


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jordesuvi
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Posted - 2018/08/18 :  15:04:37  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit jordesuvi's homepage  Reply with quote
Because music video's require resources and enough hype for a song to warrant making a music video for it. Plus they're time consuming to make.




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kotu
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Posted - 2018/08/19 :  19:35:16  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit kotu's homepage  Reply with quote
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Because music video's require resources and enough hype for a song to warrant making a music video for it. Plus they're time consuming to make.




I admire your post and thankyou for the plug!


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Posted - 2018/08/20 :  03:44:28  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit carldj90's homepage  Reply with quote
cause it cost money



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latininxtc
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Posted - 2018/08/24 :  13:49:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit latininxtc's homepage  Reply with quote
There's hardly a large enough following to warrant uk hardcore music videos these days. When theu start holding/selling out events with 10+k people that isn't centered on reminiscing on the old days and more focused on modern hardcore then let's talk about music videos

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rafferty
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There's hardly a large enough following to warrant uk hardcore music videos these days. When theu start holding/selling out events with 10+k people that isn't centered on reminiscing on the old days and more focused on modern hardcore then let's talk about music videos



Darren Styles and Tweekacore are making clips for their new tracks.

The Tweekend is probably the best UK Hardcore music clip I've seen.



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