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Mansy
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 Posted - 2019/01/09 : 11:51:45
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Originally posted by Vladel:
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Originally posted by Mansy:
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Originally posted by SparkzMusic:
Apart from making a few cups of PG tips during the process, I would wonder what Dougal has put into that collab? **** all being the likely answer.
Well we are yet to see a proper upfront solo track from him arent we. I heard on the hardcore heaven sanctury dvd (2003) when they were interviewing gammer (when he was first on the scene) that dougal was incharge of mixdowns so whether or not he still follows that path i dont no
Dougal - senses. From 2017, one of the HU hardcore heaven albums.
Yeah i thought that when i first saw that but then later saw it renamed as dougal and gammer - senses so must have been a typo. As we all know, albums across the whole genre are litted with typos.
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Samination
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Posted - 2019/01/09 : 14:09:07
Excluding artist albums, I think a lot of compilation have typos and wrong information on them on other genres too.
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2019/02/16 : 14:15:25
wow, as much as I moaned about the hardcore in the mid 2000's. I'd much rather listen to that than this complete nonsense that passes for hardcore today.
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trippnface
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Posted - 2019/02/16 : 16:33:50
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Originally posted by 95_was_the_time:
wow, as much as I moaned about the hardcore in the mid 2000's. I'd much rather listen to that than this complete nonsense that passes for hardcore today.
lol
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Owen P
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Posted - 2019/02/17 : 06:36:27
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Originally posted by SparkzMusic:
Styles has had all round talent and proved that. Dougal? Who knows.
What is "talent", by your definition? Please elaborate.
Also, why do you think Darren Styles has CHOSEN to work with Dougal for ... 15 years odd?? I'd love to know your rationale for that.
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Gammer? Yep (not anymore).
Not anymore? So talent is something you can have for a limited amount of time that then disappears? Why do I get the feeling you just can't stand to award that attribute to someone once they hit a certain level of success? I dunno, man, you're looking just a tad bitter and twisted from where I'm sitting.
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Breeze (nah). Hixxy? (Probably).
Have you ever been in the studio with any of these people? You're the arbiter of talent all of a sudden. What's it based on?
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That's the thing with the scene aint it?
Let me guess... you and your pals never amounted to anything, so you blame "teh scene" for being fundamentally wrong/unfair? I'm sure you're gushing with "talent". Those guys are just holding you down, yeah?
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For the big names, someone carried someones else who learned a few bits which made their name noticeable because of who they worked with or the scene was in it's infancy.
They get carried further by someone else and so on.
Why am I not surprised this is your angle?
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Let's be fair here, "Vibes" is a classic example of this. What has he done at all?
Nothing "fair" about that. I can tell you without reservation that Vibes is a very exceptional person in many dimensions. Nobody who really knows him would say what you're saying.
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Worked with Wishdokta. Got booked for events and paired with Livelee (Playing go mental and so on). Somehow booked for Bonkers 6 mix.
Wait... don't forget "sat on a secret board of directors with Brisk and Dougal plotting to hold Sparkz down.
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Why didn't he include his "ravers choice - techno wonderland" in the mix for that? Perhaps as the album was released by Beechwood music and they would have uncovered his scam with that?
Ravers Choice is the label, not the artist, you ninny. Techno Wonderland on Ravers Choice is by Steve Smeeth and was featured on NOT ONE, but TWO compilation albums put out by Beechwood music. Could you be any more off the mark?
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Carried on showcasing as the Vibes and Livelee parody show.
You're obviously mocking the Vibes & LiveLee show, but there's actually no substance to your sentence. They're one of the most-loved performing duos in hardcore's history. Doesn't sit well with your narrative, does it? Did someone else behind the scenes with "talent" do all the work, yeah?
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Comes back into "producing" under Vibes and that other lad.
I've worked with probably a thousand producers. Vibes is easily in my top 10 in terms of bringing value to the session. So is Dougal. They're quite similar actually, although they have different strengths and certainly they have different tastes. Both are very passionate and creative. I'd be very tempted to call them geniuses, but that might be a step too far.
You're full of shit.
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The mind boggles
Your mind boggles, because you don't want to face reality. You're not as successful as them because you don't bring as much value as them. It really is as simple as that. You can up your game, accept your position, or pursue something you're better at. But don't fire shots at people who legitimately earned their success.
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Samination
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Posted - 2019/02/17 : 08:04:30
I'm pretty sure he was refering to the lack of anything in "vibes" "remix" of Tekkno Wonderland, which we all know was a straight up repress
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GrahamC
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Posted - 2019/02/17 : 16:17:43
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Originally posted by Samination:
I'm pretty sure he was refering to the lack of anything in "vibes" "remix" of Tekkno Wonderland, which we all know was a straight up repress
Sounds just like the DJ Vibes - Outer Spaced track on Hardcore Heaven 5 which was just a rip-off of Dune's Million Miles From Home
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Samination
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Posted - 2019/02/17 : 19:28:20
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Originally posted by GrahamC:
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Originally posted by Samination:
I'm pretty sure he was refering to the lack of anything in "vibes" "remix" of Tekkno Wonderland, which we all know was a straight up repress
Sounds just like the DJ Vibes - Outer Spaced track on Hardcore Heaven 5 which was just a rip-off of Dune's Million Miles From Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e3_ep6ynEw ?
That sounds a like a real remix. Doesnt sound like the original at least, but then I haven't listened to any of the other remixes.
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2019/02/17 : 19:41:12
outerspaced is a proper remix, better than the dune one imo :P
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2019/02/18 : 16:40:58
IMO the scene needs tracks like this to make a resurgence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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djDMS
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Posted - 2019/02/18 : 16:46:16
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Originally posted by Si Thompson:
IMO the scene needs tracks like this to make a resurgence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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Triquatra
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Posted - 2019/02/18 : 22:27:59
oh ffs.
lol
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LeVzi
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Posted - 2019/02/19 : 07:50:35
Egos , that started the demise, then the style of music just started hammering in the nails.
The ego's in the scene were plain to see, from budding bedroom DJ to amateur producer to the top level. It just casued a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths , and changed the attitude to the scene.
I've followed hardcore since the early 90's, ended up hating it by the end of the 90's , came back to it at some point in the post 2000s' for a while, then lost interest again up until present day.
I heard a couple of remixes recently , can't remember where, and I think they were Darwins, of old tracks and it sparked that hardcore feeling again, but then I heard some original tracks and thought fk that, still hasn't changed.
Couple of years ago, I met DJ Sy outside a rave in my town, briefly spoke with him, and I briefly spoke with Slipmatt inside earlier in the night, and both blokes reminded me why the scene "way back when" was so good. Cos they don't have ego's , they are 2 of the most down to earth fellas you could speak to, especially Sy, and on the night, I wasn't expecting mid 90's hardcore, cos it was more an old skool rave, but Sy dropped it from the start, and I was transported back 20 years instantly, and that was a feeling I can't thank him enough for.
I dunno, I feel that the scene needs an injection of new blood, new attitude and new music, to revive it, because even if i've been critical of it a LOT over the last 10 years, it's still my favourite music, and i'd love to see it make a comeback.
The Rez event in April, looks awesome, if I could get there I would but quite simply cannot afford it, but going back to the 90's and introducing it to many, as a lot of younger guys who've never experienced the old style will get to, maybe it will plant the seed for new ideas, new producers, new DJ's who wanna emulate it and modernise it in a less cheesy way.
Who knows, but one can hope.
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Si Thompson
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Posted - 2019/02/19 : 21:09:56
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Originally posted by LeVzi:
Egos , that started the demise, then the style of music just started hammering in the nails.
The ego's in the scene were plain to see, from budding bedroom DJ to amateur producer to the top level. It just casued a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths , and changed the attitude to the scene.
I've followed hardcore since the early 90's, ended up hating it by the end of the 90's , came back to it at some point in the post 2000s' for a while, then lost interest again up until present day.
I heard a couple of remixes recently , can't remember where, and I think they were Darwins, of old tracks and it sparked that hardcore feeling again, but then I heard some original tracks and thought fk that, still hasn't changed.
Couple of years ago, I met DJ Sy outside a rave in my town, briefly spoke with him, and I briefly spoke with Slipmatt inside earlier in the night, and both blokes reminded me why the scene "way back when" was so good. Cos they don't have ego's , they are 2 of the most down to earth fellas you could speak to, especially Sy, and on the night, I wasn't expecting mid 90's hardcore, cos it was more an old skool rave, but Sy dropped it from the start, and I was transported back 20 years instantly, and that was a feeling I can't thank him enough for.
I dunno, I feel that the scene needs an injection of new blood, new attitude and new music, to revive it, because even if i've been critical of it a LOT over the last 10 years, it's still my favourite music, and i'd love to see it make a comeback.
The Rez event in April, looks awesome, if I could get there I would but quite simply cannot afford it, but going back to the 90's and introducing it to many, as a lot of younger guys who've never experienced the old style will get to, maybe it will plant the seed for new ideas, new producers, new DJ's who wanna emulate it and modernise it in a less cheesy way.
Who knows, but one can hope.
I agree with all of this. 
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95_was_the_time
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Posted - 2019/02/22 : 00:25:23
but are UK hardcore events even still happening?
that's how out of touch i've been with the scene since 2010 (2010, Which I really do assume is the death year of hardcore)
Is HTID and Uproar still a thing?
All it seems to be now is EDM festivals. It's like Hixxy and co KNOW people have dropped out of the scene... because of the new 20somethings around now with their own generation of dance music.
All hardcore rave promoters can do now is treat us like old people and give us special 30+ only events.... obviously it won't be.... if you're under 30 you're not allowed in, but that will be the main audience attending. 30+ grey haired and balding men wishing we were still 20.
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